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Dave Mason Between the Clouds and the River: Healing, Identity & the Quiet Truths We Carry

Updated: Dec 5, 2025

By Amanda Smith

Media & Literary Analyst, Down Under Interviews



When author Dave Mason sat down with Paul Rushworth-Brown on Down Under Interviews, the conversation quickly moved beyond plot and into the emotional undercurrents that shape his acclaimed novel Between the Clouds and the River. Mason writes with an uncommon depth — lyrical, reflective prose steeped in landscape, memory, and the quiet truths people avoid in everyday life. His stories bridge continents and decades, drawing readers into a world where healing unfolds slowly, like water finding its way back to the riverbed.


Black-and-white portrait of author Dave Mason seated with arms folded, looking into the camera with a calm, thoughtful expression. A soft-focus living room appears in the background.
Dave Mason joins Paul Rushworth-Brown on Down Under Interviews to discuss the emotional and spiritual journey behind Between the Clouds and the River

Born in England and raised in Canada, Dave Mason is an internationally recognised graphic designer, software entrepreneur, and award-winning novelist. His debut EO-N earned more than twenty literary honours — including the 2021 Hemingway Award for 20th Century Wartime Fiction — and is now in development for film and television. His second novel, Between the Clouds and the River, has already received eleven literary awards. Mason divides his time between Bozeman, Montana, and Lunenburg, Nova Scotia — landscapes that echo through his writing.


Dave Mason Between the Clouds and the River: A Story Spanning War, Trauma, Belonging, and the Bonds That Save Us



Screenshot from the Down Under Interviews episode featuring host Paul Rushworth-Brown on the left and author Dave Mason on the right during their virtual conversation.
Between the Clouds and the River — Dave Mason’s award-winning novel exploring grief, identity, and the enduring truth of love.

Dave Mason Between the Clouds and the River intertwines two timelines:


1943 — North Africa:Bernhardt Lang, a twenty-four-year-old German trying to survive the machinery of war, is thrust into choices no young man should face. When an unlikely ally enters his life, he glimpses the possibility of choosing his own destiny — far from the ruins of Europe, and in a place he never imagined himself belonging.


1965 — British Columbia & Montana:Young Joseph Holliman is enduring a childhood marked by neglect, instability, and emotional abandonment. When he crosses paths with Frank Gardner — a man carrying his own unspoken past — Joseph’s understanding of family begins to shift in profound and unexpected ways.


The novel moves across deserts, mountains, rivers, and emotional terrains.Its central truth is simple and devastating:Love is the only truth that endures.


Themes That Resonate Deeply


Mason’s interview touches on the emotional backbone of the book — grief, fractured identity, the fear of being truly known, and the human search for meaning.Key themes include:

  • fathers & sons

  • memory and forgiveness

  • trauma carried in silence

  • running from versus running toward the truth

  • the landscapes that mirror our inner worlds

  • the difference between surviving life and truly living it

He describes the river as “a place where memory doesn’t fight you — it moves with you,” a metaphor that sits at the heart of the story’s spiritual dimension.


Narrative Style and Craft



Black-and-white portrait of author Dave Mason seated with arms folded, looking into the camera with a calm, thoughtful expression. A soft-focus living room appears in the background.
Author Dave Mason — known for EO-N and Between the Clouds and the River — brings emotional depth and quiet reflection to his writing.

Mason writes intuitively — much like Paul — following images, emotion, and symbolic threads rather than rigid outlines.His prose is:

  • lyrical and meditative

  • layered with symbolism

  • slow-burn and emotionally precise

  • shaped by his background in leadership psychology, emotional patterning, and narrative reframing


This combination produces characters whose internal conflicts drive the story as much as external events.


Where to Watch the Interview


Soon to be appearing on Meet the Author (US) — syndicated via Indie Book Source.


Connect with Dave Mason





Portrait of Paul Rushworth-Brown wearing a grey blazer and smiling, used for Down Under Interviews promotional materials.
Paul Rushworth-Brown — host of Down Under Interviews, where global authors share the stories behind their stories.

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